TTS, the cancer of clans.

[Loki]

Just wondering why it seems that every clan TTS joins ends up turning to shit. Kid has lost many friends and clan members lately for being a tool. Smurfing and hacking. Yet he still denies it when the whole damn community knows it. I respect Rigo and a few others in TkO, but TTS is ruining the once good name of TkO.

[ZER(o)]

I take it the two of you aren't getting along right now.

I haven't played in about a week - been kind of busy, as uncharacteristic of me as that is - so I don't know what happened with you two and TKO. But when I was playing actively a couple of weeks ago, Trapp got third or even lvp in about half the games we played (the other half he was ruling the chart, of course). We still managed to win all but a couple of 'em, but I really don't get the hacking accusations. Every now and then I see him pull out a TaZ-esque walk or something, but it's not commonplace.

[EpYoN]

This is just the simplest member of dS)eNvY's mentally-manipulatable entourage of sniper-filler clones babbling ignorantly as to what he has no real knowledgeable capacity to conjur. All of the evidence that I've used hacks since Clan ESx's demise in 2007 has been nothing more than speculatory evidence as opposed to what you're looking for, conclusive fact. Post your "proof," keep desperately reaching at the darkness, compile more simpletons and remain on the fall for all I care. Take this into account: if Loki is incorrect as to my usage of hacks (which I won't deny for the sake of an unbiased "what-if"), that would mean I've been legitimately creating the false assumptions... and the implication behind that statement? My game is superior, I do things that you can't. If you want to argue that statement, that in the end I am simply better, without having verified and proven my use hacks, quit assuming I hack; it's just a contradiction and outstanding fallacy in your logic.


P.S.
Loki, although you may wonder why TkO is "turning to shit," I wonder how you are so delusional? TkO has been undoubtedly the Best Clan or at rivalry with the Best since it's first moment in being and remains just the same, if not better. What is your basis, besides your unconfounded assumptions as to my fairness of play?

On the other hand, Clan dS has perpetually broken rules, hypocritically, that couldn't be in factual question, such as base-sitting, repetitive-camping, with flag-pausing and latency exploitation on the list as well. None of this can be realistically denied and it's being done to more people than just myself (whom NEVER complains), in games that I'm not even playing by your clanmates to mine. Your head of clan's excuse for cheating against people other than myself? I exist as apart of TkO. BW label says mature, but it's clear by the endless expanse of this debate that this game was designed for cocky children who can't get enough room in the sandbox. You blow, TkO > You, last thing I'll say but I'll keep on proving it, unlike you can seem to do at any level, trial or appeal.

[Loki]

Your desperate attempt to recruit members because you pissed the old ones off and they left you is funny. You make that sit thing seem as if it happens every game. You weren't even there. We got sat so Jordan sat. Was an intentional thing. Oh and hmm still waiting on our first loss to TkO...seems you get destroyed every time trapp. Anything else? Beef is with you. Not TkO.

P.S. The only people backing you are people who ride your nuts. They know deep down inside Trapp.

[skiD]

All your clans suck, sorry

[ZER(o)]

I resent that last part, Zane :P


I have suspected Trapp of hacking before, a long time ago. And I've seen him do unsavory things in games before. Nothing recently, all I'm saying. He's been playing pretty poorly recently. You'd think winning the game or watching him bottom-out would be enough. I think TkO and dS are both good clans with great members, but whatever Trapp is guilty of, I honestly don't see gLaNcInG a league better.

[+errOris+]

I absolutely agree with ZER(o). Granted I am also a lot more neutral than most snipers as far as the community goes. I like dS, it's a good clan, but people are just that: people. Every existence within every relationship amongst humans will have problems. It's all in Rousseau. What do they teach kids in schools these days...? The point is there are good things, excellent even, about dS. And there are good things, excellent even, about TkO. In the end it's all about the people who will make or break it, and ultimately it's the people we have to learn to live with. Personally my experience with Trapp has been great. I consider him a good friend and a great sniper. I don't know about being on his nuts, but I am entitled to my opinion. Zane is my buddy on this game and I consider him to be a great sniper, and we've had good times. Jordan's a capable clan leader from what I've seen of dS, and we've had some good games together.

The point is, ZER(o) is right. The clans are only as good as the people who make them up, and both TkO and dS have some very top-notch snipers. As people no one can sit here and accuse someone else of anything so dispicable that makes them any better than the person they are accusing. And Trapp's right. There is plenty of room for Maturity to be developing in this community in general. Until we as a sniping community get our shit in order, we can never expect to see any kind of halt to the general decline of the game.

Just my $0.02.

[Loki]

I agree with both of you. Both of you know also, that it takes a lot for me to shit talk anyone, regardless of what was done or said to me. I left TkO because of a different matter. When I tried to talk to TTS in a civilized manner about the reason, he began attacking me personally. This went on for about 30 or so minutes while I just defended myself and refused to shit talk him back because for one this is a game and two it was a misunderstanding. Well, after listening to his gutteral rhetoric for the better part of an hour, I couldn't take it anymore and the shit fight was on. I've tried since then to end this beef and let it die to no avail with Trapp. I'm not saying I want to be friends, but I don't want beef with anyone. I play this for fun. It's a game. One less enemy is always a good thing.

[+errOris+]

I'm not saying I want to be friends, but I don't want beef with anyone. I play this for fun. It's a game. One less enemy is always a good thing.

And there you go. For all my words, you could just read this and take about as much away from it as from mine.

[Knight]

All your clans suck, sorry

Including one your in.