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      Sniper league?!?!?!? Oragami dispute????

      Quote Originally Posted by Relieve View Post
      How does it not make sense? If the clock really DID malfunction then we would have remade easy. But it didn't and he left, which counts as a forfeit. So it's an automatic loss for him. In fact, we would have remade for him if he didn't have to make up shit. But realizing that he has not posted around here once since the incident, I don't think he gives a fuck.
      Anyone who thinks that my team deserves a loss for our comeback clearly is missing the fact that I made the judgement to remake the game, and I'm a judge. No matter how you see it, it does not give either team the advantage, which means it is a fair ruling. I said this immediately, and all rulings were stated in the first and last editions of the rules to be final.

      As for Relieve's second comment towards the end of his terribly reasoned post, he couldn't be more correct. I've realized that I've been wasting my time with this league, because the bulk of my time was simply spent arguing with a large group of uncooperative people about whether or not the game of Snipers is still dead. Motivating people to sign up was a bitch, and getting them to actually play (not to mention by the rules) was nearly impossible. After spending many hours working on this tedious task, nobody has even acknowledged me for my work with the exception of maybe a couple people, and just about nobody lifted a finger to help, or get involved. I'm not going to run this league anymore, and I'm not going to run any more sniper leagues, as this community doesn't even want to be revived. Maybe there can be tournaments or clan wars, but leagues full of immature 20+ year olds who haven't moved out of their parents house yet are some of the whiniest little shits you'll ever have to work with. Every single person who has the nerve to talk shit about my genuine attempt to consolidate our community can watch their complaints rot, because I'm not going to even acknowledge their existence.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SOLAR View Post
      Anyone who thinks that my team deserves a loss for our comeback clearly is missing the fact that I made the judgement to remake the game, and I'm a judge. No matter how you see it, it does not give either team the advantage, which means it is a fair ruling. I said this immediately, and all rulings were stated in the first and last editions of the rules to be final.

      As for Relieve's second comment towards the end of his terribly reasoned post, he couldn't be more correct. I've realized that I've been wasting my time with this league, because the bulk of my time was simply spent arguing with a large group of uncooperative people about whether or not the game of Snipers is still dead. Motivating people to sign up was a bitch, and getting them to actually play (not to mention by the rules) was nearly impossible. After spending many hours working on this tedious task, nobody has even acknowledged me for my work with the exception of maybe a couple people, and just about nobody lifted a finger to help, or get involved. I'm not going to run this league anymore, and I'm not going to run any more sniper leagues, as this community doesn't even want to be revived. Maybe there can be tournaments or clan wars, but leagues full of immature 20+ year olds who haven't moved out of their parents house yet are some of the whiniest little shits you'll ever have to work with. Every single person who has the nerve to talk shit about my genuine attempt to consolidate our community can watch their complaints rot, because I'm not going to even acknowledge their existence.
      How strange is it that you finally replied to this incident a month after it happened. I almost forgotten about this until you made this topic...

      But I will not waste my time arguing to you about the issue, because I, Oragami, as well as the rest of the community believes you deserved a loss. So let's leave it at that, the league is dead, and no one really cares anymore. It's pointless to sit here and argue about something we had already done in the past.

      As for your second paragraph: I don't exactly understand what you mean by that no one made an effort to help you with the league. Didn't a few people even put money into the league? They put in money to promote your league for what? So the leader could go inactive for a whole month(right after we beat you twice, strange...) and not participate in the league at all? All the league took after the preparation was people recording and posting won matches, which actually took some time and effort into the league.

      It's true that the league didn't promote any increase in the sniper population whatsoever, but it's kind of sad that you have to blame the death of the league on other people. Not once did you mention about your inactivity, all you really had to do (after the preparations, which, I thank you for spending your time and effort into doing, as well as the rest of the community) was just add up the points of each team at the end. After all, it is really hard to thank someone for hosting a league if he did nothing to promote activity. But your inactivity caused people to just forget about the league since you were doing absolutely nothing to promote activity. However, I am "Relieve"d that you said you would never host a league anymore...

      I'm genuinely assuming that you are labeling me and Oragami as "20 year olds who have never moved out of your parent's house". But, with all due respect you were the one in the channel after the matches that started to insult Oragami by calling him a "fucking scrub", all because we chose to do what was right: We deserved the win. I even remember you telling Oragami that he should have never even been allowed in the league for his past hacking associations. But we all know that he has genuinely been legit for a LONG time. He has shown his legitimacy by recording almost every private match verse anyone. I am sorry that you chose to compete with two snipers who will do everything to win a match. But that is just how we are.

      You did make a "genuine attempt" to promote activeness in the sniper community, however you did nothing during the league was active to "consolidate" the community. Let's not forget: You went inactive for a whole month without saying a word, and that is what caused RoS to fail.
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      Just because of 1 game, you decide to quit the entire league and bring everything, everyone and yourself down. You're an failure who is not only biased toward others but create unfair competition by making rules as you go. You have not once even ask any other judges about their opinions on this and decide to single handily destroy the league yourself.

      Not once have i ever seen any judges being appointed on any posts. Even if there are judges, I'm pretty sure the entire league would be consist of judges from your clan.

      All you had to do is just admit that you were wrong and stop being biased. You lost that match by leaving the game. There was no rules stating anywhere that a remake was to be made. You made the rule on spot in order to confuse people. What you did was basically power tripping.

      You proceed to disappear for the couple of weeks, ignoring the league you "spend many hours working on this tedious task.. " and come back and decide to argue about how nobody cares about what you did? Look, we're grateful for what you tried to do, but the way you ran it was complete failure. You were too biased of a judge, too biased of a player, and could not understand how to run a real league. The only person to be blamed is you for not asking anyone else to help.

      grow the fuck up and admit you lost. I hate oragami but he's right. That son of a bitch took you down hard.
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      kids obviously didn't read my posts, so i'm not reading theirs. I didn't quit the league because of one incident, I quit because of difficult people like you, Tealage, and the lack of activity and support. As far as money goes, nobody sent any, and my rulings and judgements were fair, and were not respected, so I gave up on this pathetic community's ability to compete fairly.

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      wtf did i do? i played like 3 games. You never asked for my help or anything. Your judgements were not fair. The entire time, I couldn't post on the forums. Difficult? you're difficult.
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      If you knew right from the start you wouldnt have time for it.. why even creating it.. not even ONCE did u update a standing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TeaLaGe View Post

      I hate oragami but he's right. That son of a bitch took you down hard.
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      I love how oragami smiles when tealage says he doesn't like him. A perfect example of how an idiot like oragami tricks his own brain into thinking people respect him. Tealage, your attitude was garbage throughout this entire league, it wasn't just this one situation where you decide to get in my way. You waited until beyond the last second to sign up, and your annoying pessimism is less than tolerable.

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      So what if i decided to sign up at the last moment? it's my free right too.
      BriNgInG SeXy BacK!!~

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      "that son of a bitch took you down hard"

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      Idk if anyone remembers me but just wanted to see everyone again im Conceal@Uswest/Constantine@Uswest/Useast anyone remeber meh ^^?

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