Snipers Community needs to stay united!

[Reveal]

Shut the fuck up nerds.

[Epin3phrin3]

Good opinion

[Reveal]

All I have to say is, I don't see any of you other lazy fucks trying to make a map for SC2. So.. let this guy map make since he knows how to and if you see changes needed to be made, tell him. Otherwise stfu..

[Epin3phrin3]

Thanks Reveal...appreciate the support

[FalseLights]

just to clarify further on what skid is saying, and correct me if I'm wrong..

Blizzboards is the main site for the Sniping Community. Irsniper.com (or any other sniper site to be developed for a UMS: Sniper Bald Locks game type) will be regarded as a site for giving input towards the I R Sniper map (or the map that particular site represents) and it's affiliates.

[W[o.O]D]

All I have to say is, I don't see any of you other lazy fucks trying to make a map for SC2. So.. let this guy map make since he knows how to and if you see changes needed to be made, tell him. Otherwise stfu..

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[BaSe]

All I have to say is, I don't see any of you other lazy fucks trying to make a map for SC2. So.. let this guy map make since he knows how to and if you see changes needed to be made, tell him. Otherwise stfu..

+1

[skiD]

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I dont think you read and understood myself correctly. I said the only problem I have is that you started your own stuff appart from this and then you claim you didnt want to split up the community. And I did say if your map turns out very good, GJ.

My problem really, is that why come here promote a new site about a game when we already have one. [...] I dont care who makes the map if it ends up fucking awesome dude. I did say you have no credibility but honestly can you really have any when you have so little knowledge of the game like you did. Atleast you did gather a team of old snipers I know and respect to help with it.

What's up with not even taking the time to read me properly. My problem: You come outta the blue and promote your new site made for our game... ok sorry it isn't ours (sorry BaSe, i've only played it for years and help update it through them years...), THE snipers game, right here where us, BW original snipers try to stay together.

You make a map : GJ, if its good, props, I haven't played it due to my comp not being able to run SC2 without lag so I don't know. I said that from what I read, your map lacked a shitload of things to start, but I also said that I read you updated it off feedback and said it's good you listen to people who played. Well great... what more can I say so you can feel "respect" ?

Because I have no knowledge of map making (sorry for not having skills at that) and because my system isn't strong enough to test it out, I should shut the fuck up because I chose to be a lazy ass and not update it myself?... Okay... I thought everyone here had the right to express themselves.

[FalseLights]

I thought everyone here had the right to express themselves.

Everyone but oragami. >.>

No but seriously. As long as were all on the same page here.

I strongly think that we should right post our sc2 'coding' or 'ideas'. I sense a lot of sc2 remakes from people who want to express there own ideas and layout on how the map should be played and it's graphics.

I say leave the terrain to the people who implemented anti-hacks or what have you..
leave the score board UI to the people who made MVP points or what have you...
who ever is an awesome graphic designer.. do that.. etc

Collaborate.

[BaSe]

@ Skid, I get where your coming from bro. I really do. I just got some questions for you.

What should starcraft 2 snipers do?
Should we wait for some1 from starcraft 1 snipers to make a map for us?
Why is it such a big deal that you have input on this map?
*The people of our community that have chosen to give input on the map have. If you want us to wait for you to get sc2 snipers before we start playing it.. tough luck.

BTW.. You expressing yourself is dividing the community much more than any plug to another forums.
IR Snipers could become a "partner site" and I hope it does.
If both forums have 200-300+ members it would help the sc2 snipers community a lot. Considering sc2 is unlikely to have chat channels.. message boards will be really active.. and don't be surprised if every clan has its own forum to act like an idle channel.

[TarTeR]

wtf epin TL;DR
iso quick summary& no colors

[BaSe]

speake da english tarts

[W[o.O]D]

wtf epin TL;DR
iso quick summary& no colors

tldr; he said he want's a big community /b/rother.

[LocKeD]

All I have to say is, I don't see any of you other lazy fucks trying to make a map for SC2. So.. let this guy map make since he knows how to and if you see changes needed to be made, tell him. Otherwise stfu..

Yep This is exactly the main thing of this thread.

[TeaLaGe]

Maybe if you weren't so elitist, other people would have a chance to "learn the history". I'm pretty sure Icefrog doesn't know shit about the "history of DOTA", and still updates it.

This is probably the best chance this community has ever had in expanding, and then you condemn it.

The only part of this worth supporting is that someone paid money for this forum, so might as well make good use of it.

Who the fuck are you? you see? These kids come out of nowhere. I don't condemn anything. I ask for credibility.

I don't give a shit about the map, I'm talking about you and your friends coming in here, spamming and advertising your forum, like you're trying to make it your own. Look, if anything I NEVER heard of this guy making any maps in BW. Show me some credibility where you made maps for SC, maybe I'll change my opinion.

@Tealage
This is not a popularity contest. These 'randoms' are actually promoting and advertising the game on beta. I have more respect for them than I have for you.

I could careless about what you think. Your respect means nothing to me, you're just another average player to me. These randoms promoting? These no-namers you sided with seem to have more to their agenda then you think. We don't even know their Akas on SC/BW. For we know they could be blinks, leeches, thao. All these "old schoolers". What a joke. Everyone is a old schooler, doesn't matter if you played in 98, 2004, 2008, 2010. We're all old schoolers waiting for SC2.

Fyi, just because you played in the early days doesn't mean you're better then those who played later. You're just old news. Atleast PLAY THE GAME ONCE TO SEE WHAT IT IS LIKE. I bet even that Icefrog person played Dota atleast once before he updated the map.

All I have to say is, I don't see any of you other lazy fucks trying to make a map for SC2. So.. let this guy map make since he knows how to and if you see changes needed to be made, tell him. Otherwise stfu..

/who clan zl. Yeah you can't join.

[Reveal]

Why is this guy such a nerd.. I mean really. I say that to everybody but this guy fits the typical description so well it's hilarious. 5'5, 105lbs Asian kid sitting in front of 5 monitors bragging about how he can bench a lot.. "70-75lbs".. Then going on a rant about how he's so 'good' at snipers and how he wants some cred. from people trying to make a snipers map for SC2.

P.S. The height and weight and bench number is not made up. Kid even said it himself. LMAO!

[TeaLaGe]

Why is this guy such a nerd.. I mean really. I say that to everybody but this guy fits the typical description so well it's hilarious. 5'5, 105lbs Asian kid sitting in front of 5 monitors bragging about how he can bench a lot.. "70-75lbs".. Then going on a rant about how he's so 'good' at snipers and how he wants some cred. from people trying to make a snipers map for SC2.

P.S. The height and weight and bench number is not made up. Kid even said it himself. LMAO!

reveal. 2 word.. u mad?

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I mean, it's pretty obvious. You're just sitting in that channel with a video camera.

[Reveal]

No, just pointing out the obvious about you.
Last I recall:

3oD[Reveal] has booted Tealage]zl[ from the game.
Tealage]zl[: you wanna see mad reveal, /f r.
Tealage]zl[ has exited battle.net.

LOL ^^

[TeaLaGe]

? I removed you for 10 seconds then i left and came back and added you.

?? Really Reveal? Did you lose that bad today?

[FaZ-]

You people are completely fucking clueless... is it still flaming if it's fact?

The guy is making an SC2 map for Snipers. From what everyone can see to this point, the gameplay is going to be very watered down from what we know original snipers to be. That's just a fact of the editor. The "more advanced" aspects of the editor don't change that the physics system in SC2 is also more advanced and a very large part of what we do in Snipers in SC1 is to exploit mistakes in that system.

- Locking makes you fire faster than walking because the auto-attack of a sniper is slow. Making it fast would have been expensive (processing-wise) in 1998. So the game compensates by only updating to check if someone is in range frequently if it's targeted (Locking) or in less frequent intervals, if it's not.
- D-Lock, Lure, S-Lock, Stance, all follow the same principal.
- HS: The game lets you shoot someone out of vision because the check to see whether you can fire occurs at the beginning of your attack animation, not the end of it. If it happened at the end of the animation, as proper programming would suggest, you wouldn't be able to do this. But you can. That's another bug that we've come to treat as a "feature."
- SHS: Clearly unintended. I have no idea why this works, to be honest, but it does.

Epin3phrin3, you're new here. The vast majority of people here don't even know how to give constructive feedback, nevermind that they wouldn't ever take the time to do it even if they could. You learn to just ignore them after a while and trust me, you won't miss anything. I do hope you learn to replicate Snipers and I'd be happy to give you my opinions, but to be frank I think your map is a lost cause. The game will be too different no matter how much you try to replicate the original, and so you can either abandon it or add stupid features like cloaking and scan sweep that the War3 mapmakers chose to.


P.S. Icefrog was intimately involved in DotA even before he was HAND PICKED by the former DotA mapmaker Guinsoo to take control of the series. He also personally contacts many members of paid DotA teams around the world routinely for their input on the current balance and metagame.