Snipers Community needs to stay united!

[Reveal]

"U MAD?"
And no. Last time I remember you were sitting behind your turrets with flag trying to run out the clock. 30 seconds left I run down pull your newbie sit then pop you for bonus + flag to win.

Now.. back to the topic. Nerdage keep your dumb comments to yourself because quite frankly, nobody reads your shit, lol.

[Epin3phrin3]

-Faz I know the game cannot be an EXACT replica of SCBW Snipers. I've already tested various "features" as you have stated such as SHS...it isn't possible. SHS along with many "features" such as "glitches" are just system abuse that all people accepted as an "advanced skill." I'm working hard to maintain a lot of the probable features of the game. Falselights is constantly giving me suggestions...a lot of them are not even in the original Snipers, but he lets me know stuff to maintain old school and ideas for new school.

And Reveal...of course we read Tealage's posts...they give me lol's

[Knight]

Hey, i didnt bother reading every single thing, but i read enough to know wats going on. If Epin3phrin3 is making a new sniper map for sc2, then thats great. But if his advertising different forum on this forum, he should GTFO. and all the randoms like Faz- + Falselight+ Base, stop sucking on his cock. and yes, u guys are randoms. Faz- u made few sniping maps in the past, but u were never a good sniper. on the other forum before, u were always talking shit bout snipers and saying how shit it is and how its dying. u kept flaming our clan when KLit and our members try to recruit new people. u never once offered any help or gave a positive feed back. stop trying to act like ur all in for this game, when u werent 3month ago. Falselight, u say ur ivis-light? i played u before, ur so horrible, u give snipers a bad name. srsly if u played like that in sc2, and u call urself sniper from sc1, all the kids gonna think we suck dick. perhaps u should learn more about the game first, then try to give advice about making the map.

[Epin3phrin3]

Knight..I have a team that is making a map for SC2 as a recreation of SCBW Snipers. It is great and coming along awesome...nearly perfection but always room for improvement. I was unaware about the no advertising rule...but i am now. I already apologized about advertising and said if I could i would never have mentioned another forums and only mentioned the map.

Falselights, Faz, and Base...are allowed to their opinions just as you are. However, I feel that you are basing "sniping skill" as a means to justify who's opinions should matter. Should that really be the case here? "I snipe better than you...therefore...stfu"? That's a poor and rather immature way to judge anyone.

I never sniped in SC1 so I don't know anything about who has or doesn't have skills, but I do know that these people are trying to help me with the map and state their own opinions on various topics. Regardless of their skills I can respect them for their help with the project.

It doesn't take a sick sniper with "skills" to give an opinion. I take suggestions from everyone and write them down if they are within the correct scheme. If you tell me i need to add skills to snipers and maybe a shop to buy items...then no. But if it's something like decreasing the range of the ghost to allow for more emphasis in angles...ok i'll look into it.

Oh and since you are such a good sniper Knight...why don't u stop wasting your time flaming people and telling them how horrible their sniping is and instead leave us suggestions on how to improve the map? I feel like that would accomplish something more than flaming does...agreed?

[FaZ-]

I'm sorry, I acted "all in for this game" ? Let me quote my last post for you:

to be frank I think your map is a lost cause.

From what everyone can see to this point, the gameplay is going to be very watered down from what we know original snipers to be.

Please learn how to read.

It's really funny to me. If you look back on what I said to KLiT, it turned out to be exactly right. I absolutely gave feedback, it was just taken as an attack because none of you can stand being criticized, least of all him. How many replays got submitted for your clan's stupid fucking ranking system? I'm going "all in" on zero.


Epin3phrin3, the problem in a word is replayability. If I can play five rounds of SC2 Snipers and figure out the best strategy, it's not going to be a fun game. The dozens of admittedly stupid tricks in SC1 Snipers is what made the game enjoyable for so many people for so long. When almost all of those stopped being used, the SC1 population took a nose dive. Quick locking is an amusing side game for 15 minutes and best left at that. It's not sniping.

[Knight]

I'm sorry, I acted "all in for this game" ? Let me quote my last post for you:



Please learn how to read.

It's really funny to me. If you look back on what I said to KLiT, it turned out to be exactly right. I absolutely gave feedback, it was just taken as an attack because none of you can stand being criticized, least of all him. How many replays got submitted for your clan's stupid fucking ranking system? I'm going "all in" on zero.


Epin3phrin3, the problem in a word is replayability. If I can play five rounds of SC2 Snipers and figure out the best strategy, it's not going to be a fun game. The dozens of admittedly stupid tricks in SC1 Snipers is what made the game enjoyable for so many people for so long. When almost all of those stopped being used, the SC1 population took a nose dive. Quick locking is an amusing side game for 15 minutes and best left at that. It's not sniping.

actually, there were quite a few replays n recordings posted. go look in our clan forum. also we did train people, it was just that they werent interested in the game. they rather play other popular ums games like desert strike, various bounds, temple siege, etc...
the problem was for broodwar sniper recruitment was that people just weren't interested in sniping when plenty of other fun ums maps are available.

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Knight..I have a team that is making a map for SC2 as a recreation of SCBW Snipers. It is great and coming along awesome...nearly perfection but always room for improvement. I was unaware about the no advertising rule...but i am now. I already apologized about advertising and said if I could i would never have mentioned another forums and only mentioned the map.

Falselights, Faz, and Base...are allowed to their opinions just as you are. However, I feel that you are basing "sniping skill" as a means to justify who's opinions should matter. Should that really be the case here? "I snipe better than you...therefore...stfu"? That's a poor and rather immature way to judge anyone.

I never sniped in SC1 so I don't know anything about who has or doesn't have skills, but I do know that these people are trying to help me with the map and state their own opinions on various topics. Regardless of their skills I can respect them for their help with the project.

It doesn't take a sick sniper with "skills" to give an opinion. I take suggestions from everyone and write them down if they are within the correct scheme. If you tell me i need to add skills to snipers and maybe a shop to buy items...then no. But if it's something like decreasing the range of the ghost to allow for more emphasis in angles...ok i'll look into it.

Oh and since you are such a good sniper Knight...why don't u stop wasting your time flaming people and telling them how horrible their sniping is and instead leave us suggestions on how to improve the map? I feel like that would accomplish something more than flaming does...agreed?

nope, decided to not get sc2, look at the poll i started for my reasons. Also, i only took offense and flamed because of the advertising. If ur sorry about it and won't do it again, i have no problem against u. Also, good luck on the map.

[BanG]

Tealage is a raging ass who wants some cred for being a "pro" at a 10 year old game "clap clap". Now everyone against this map is just plain dumb he isnt hurting anybody by making it. If it's bad then let it be. who gives a shit?? People whove played this game for years will decside wether it deserves to be our offical map. and anyway nobody is leaving to go join this randoms forums. who gives a shit about his forum do you see people running off to go joining his "team"? I don't think anyone is stupid enough to leave our forum were all our players have bin for YEARS. Just stfu.

[skiD]

No one is really against this map to be completed... You need to read before posting. Also enough with the "stfu" posts already guys... If you don't have other arguments than that then beat it.

[BaSe]

Knight aka? I've never heard of you. Your opinion doesn't mean shit if you don't bother to read posts.. let alone if your not getting starcraft 2. This doesn't concern you. So just take your negativity somewhere else. If people honestly think he can steal members away to this forum.. they are just flat dumb.

[Oragami]

base, aka a basic set of skills, nothing unique or extra ordinary

[FalseLights]

..all the randoms like Faz- + Falselight+ Base, stop sucking on his cock. and yes, u guys are randoms...

Falselight... ur so horrible, u give snipers a bad name... perhaps u should learn more about the game first, then try to give advice about making the map.

Congrats, your the first person to ever flame me on a forum.

I've had my share of clans and tournaments in snipers. I think I've been around long enough to give valuable input on a 10 year old ums game.

If you want to test my skill and measure cocks just priv me in a recorded match and we'll see who's "horrible".

Also, i only took offense and flamed because of the advertising.

I never advertised anything on this forum; I have only gave support to Epy and his map.

Your childish for flaming people who are only trying to be supportive.

[TeaLaGe]

"U MAD?"
And no. Last time I remember you were sitting behind your turrets with flag trying to run out the clock. 30 seconds left I run down pull your newbie sit then pop you for bonus + flag to win.

Now.. back to the topic. Nerdage keep your dumb comments to yourself because quite frankly, nobody reads your shit, lol.

Yo it was kinda funny watching you and your partner camp my partner for a good 8 kills just to try and "get ahead".

How very sad.

Tealage is a raging ass who wants some cred for being a "pro" at a 10 year old game "clap clap". Now everyone against this map is just plain dumb

Bang, I don't need any credibility. My credibility has already been proven. The fact that I > You 50+ - 1 says alot. You on the other hand is trying so hard to get be accepted by pretty much everyone. Shut your mouth.

All i state is, credibility from the mapmaker that he actually done something in BW. Any random fuck can make a map if they got a hold of a Beta key. It's not that hard to make a map if you just read along the lines.

[MaKsU]

Why are people complaining about him posting his forums? That forums is devoted to making the map and its obvious he posted it here to get tips and ideas from the "real" snipers on this forum. Of course he's going to want to get tips and ideas from the people who have been playing the game the longest so stop complaining about him "advertising". He is only trying to help the community transition from sc1 to 2.

[Reveal]

8 kills? Dude you were right outside BV while my partner was luring.. And we had to kill rs. And it was about 3 times at most. You are retarded. Even after we returned that flag and those 'camps' you were still ahead. Which is the reason why you sat behind turrets with our flag trying to run out the clock. Too bad you got your sit owned and ended up losing regardless.

[TarTeR]

speake da english tarts

love you paul

[StoNe]

You on the other hand is trying so hard to get be accepted by pretty much everyone. Shut your mouth.

plz.

[Loki]

I have to agree, talk about the map if you want to. But what have you done lately?

[Epin3phrin3]

Tealage...explain to me why i need to have played SCBW or Snipers to have "credibility?" I already told you I don't make any decisions myself and everything comes from a team decision from the people on the map development team AND suggestions made by other people. Some people are old school snipers...others are randoms. The fact is, they care enough to leave input whereas you only care to defend some point you made in earlier posts about credibility and how you feel I don't have any. I already told you I don't have credibility myself...and I'll tell you again...I don't make decisions on any of the features of the map. I take people's suggestions and turn them into triggers for the map. Since you are so damn good at sniping...maybe you should let me know some suggestions since you are better than everyone else and your word beats theirs? Clearly I would be wrong not to listen to Tealage's suggestions. Even if you suggested I add a shop to buy weapons and sweet skills...i mean...you are the credible one are you not?

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Oh and thank you Maksu...I couldn't have stated it better myself. +1

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Oh and btw...can someone explain to me what being a "pro" sniper like tealage has to do with being able to create a remake of the map using the SC2 Galaxy Map Editor?

[skiD]

You don't need to be a "Pro". But if you try to make remake of the map you have to know the aspects of the game that were exclusive to SC1 that we were trying to remake (actually see if it was possible to implement) such as FOGS, ANGLES, DKS, QUICKLOCKS, NLS, LURING, PILLARS, HACKSHOTS, SHS... things like that, that werent really material

[Epin3phrin3]

I totally agree with you skiD. All those words come with definitions and i've come to learn a lot of them. I might not know the "in depth" definitions, but I have a good general idea. I've input a LOT of those features into the map. Fogging is there, angles are there, quicklock is not exactly something i can put in with the map editor...um..but it's there, there are pillars, hackshots do occur, and luring is similar to QL...it isn't something i can add, but people do it. SHS is the ONLY thing that doesn't work for sure. It's been tested time and time again. People have came up with ideas to make SHS possible (for example...make a skill where a ghost can shoot a projectile "bullet" a certain direction. I could make a custom skill...but the hotkey would not be possible to create. There isn't a way i can make the hotkey of the skill "Shift, Lock, Shift, Move". However, every other "attribute" of sc1 snipers is there. I see all of them used in games frequently by a lot of the old school sniper players. Like i said...the map has come a long way...and we're still working on making it better.